Lindsay 0:00

Q and a. Q and as, Q and as. We did a q and a poll. Qs poll as, yeah. Poll on Instagram

Jordan 0:10

Okay, hello. Hi, Lindsay. Heyo. Hi, how's it going? Good.

Lindsay 0:14

Good. I'm feeling good right now in my second trimester. I'm feeling like the last like few days. I'm feeling good. Oh, good. Babies have been great. Yeah. I'm feeling like good.

Jordan 0:24

Nice. I'm,

Lindsay 0:25

yeah, envious. Well, my husband's gone right now. He's on a big elk hunt, and I'm sleeping on the couch. Even better. Oh, I

Jordan 0:34

bet. So maybe that has something to do with it. Yeah, probably. I mean, sleep is definitely critical. Little piece. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Well, let's uh, get into this episode. We've got kind of a different one for you today. Yeah. Little quick hit. Yeah.

Lindsay 0:47

Q and a. Q and as, Q and as. We did a q and a poll. Qs poll as, yeah. Poll on Instagram. Y'all came in hot.

Jordan 0:55

Yeah.

Lindsay 0:56

So random, which is fun.

Jordan 0:57

Yeah. I think that was the fun. That's like the funnest part of just asking everyone because then you just get a random little spray of. Yes. Everything. Yeah.

Lindsay 1:08

It's so cool. I think we should do it again sometime. Maybe like in the new year or something. I don't know.

Jordan 1:15

Yeah, we'll do it again, maybe in another like 10, 20 episodes. Yeah. Sweet. So, yeah, we're just gonna get, I think let's just get straight into it. Yeah,

Lindsay 1:22

yeah. I was, um, I was at the airport, and uh, stuck on the runway, and I was like Is that what prompted this? Yep. I was like, let's do a fun little Q& A. Yeah, nice. Um, just to kind of get it going. So this was fun. since I was, since I was traveling. Yeah. First and foremost, someone asked child leashes. Child leashes? While in airports and travel, question mark. Straight into

Jordan 1:48

controversy.

Lindsay 1:49

Yeah. Are they controversial? Are they, I would say they're more opinionated than controversial, but good. Are they a good idea for safety? Yeah. Yeah, what's your what? So putting your child on a leash?

Jordan 2:01

What's my hot take? Yeah, I'd say it depends on the it totally depends on the kid. I I'm gonna say I like would lean towards supporting this move, especially in an airport or other crowded places. Because if you don't have a stroller, well, but even if you do have a stroller, like your kid doesn't like sitting in a stroller right now. So what? You want to push her around a stroller while she's like screaming bloody murder at the airport? I'm

Lindsay 2:27

nervous. I have a trip coming up. I'm like, what am I going to do?

Jordan 2:30

Yeah. So that's the thing. Like I think there are a lot of toddlers out there or like little kids who are not stoked to be in a stroller who are not stoked to be held, who, you know, like we'll squirm and wiggle and scream. But if they're like, Feel independent and walking. That they might be fine. But you don't, but then, you know, like some kids are runners. Yeah. And if you've got one of those, did you got it? You can't just like drop everything at the airport and go chase them. No. Like, especially

Lindsay 2:56

when you're picking up in or dropping off, that's a, that's a tricky spot for little ones. Uh, TSA is a tricky

Jordan 3:04

spot. Dates are a tricky spot. Like the whole airport's a tricky spot. And even other places like water. Okay. Like, I mean, you probably, I've never seen a kid on a leash at a water park, but like a water park or like an amusement park, holy smokes. I think

Lindsay 3:17

this all depends on like what the kid is like.

Jordan 3:19

Yeah. For sure. Yep. For sure. If they can handle a stroller, then a stroller might be a better option. If they can't and they just want to be running around and they're like content enough on a leash then for safe, dude, your, your job as a parent, number one is safety. Yep. For sure. Yeah. And if your kid's going to get lost or run away from you and that's like the best way that you have, or like, think of this, maybe there's a parent who has like a disability of some kind. Like I'm pregnant as fuck right now. And I, I couldn't chase my kid if she weren't running full speed. You'd have to have somebody like with

Lindsay 3:54

you if you were out and about. Yeah, totally. There's no way you could go out.

Jordan 3:57

No. And she's happy in a stroller, but like my sister has a couple boys who are like almost four and two and a half, and we were camping with them last night and they would run off, dude. And I couldn't even, like, I wanted to help, but I was like, if that was my kid, I'd be screwed. Wow. And I totally put them on a leash over letting them run into the road. They make them cute, they do make them like, they make them look like little animals. They make them cute. They do, like the kids can get all into it. Yeah, the little like backpack ones, I've seen those, those can

Lindsay 4:27

be useful. Yeah, my husband in the 90s, he was a little guy and he had a leash.

Jordan 4:32

Yeah?

Lindsay 4:34

He was a leash kid. Was he a runner? He must have been, I know he was very like an, he was a very active kiddo. Yeah. Yeah. You know, his mom was just like, thought it was the greatest thing that was ever invented for her. And she was not going to like, leave her kid. Yeah. No Roman, like crazy like that. So

Jordan 4:53

safety first, everyone. Yeah. If that's what it takes, no one's here. I mean, I'm not here judging you.

Lindsay 4:59

You feel, yeah. Keep your kids safe. Yep. I would do it if I

Jordan 5:05

had to. Yeah man, definitely. What chores do you let your toddler help with around the house? Clean, clean, clean. Clean, clean, clean. She loves it.

Lindsay 5:15

Yeah? She goes right to the drawer in the kitchen on the bottom with all the rags. Yeah, that's one of my kids favorites, too. No, she does it on her own. She spills water, she goes to that drawer and grabs it. So, cleaning is one of her favorites. 100 percent like cleaning up, cleaning up spills. I give her like a little, little Swiffer duster thing. Oh, nice. That's clever. She, she's not a huge fan of hearing the vacuum, but when I give her the duster while I'm vacuuming, then she feels like she's part of like the whole thing.

Jordan 5:43

So all about it. Yeah, that's great. My =kid does the same thing with little spills and the, and the towel drawer in our kitchen. she's also getting to the point where. I'll ask her to pick up her, you know, blocks or her whatever, like, toy she's playing with and put it away before we move on to the next thing and she's getting really good at it. Yeah, oh cool. Like, 80 percent of the time.

Lindsay 6:04

Yeah, we do that, like, before bedtime, we do, like, a big family, like, pick up. Yeah. Nice. Or put it away, and she's good at saying put it away. Cute. So, yeah. Chores for kids are awesome. Yeah,

Jordan 6:15

they are great. Um, my kid also likes to help with laundry. Help, help with maybe like a little bit of a stretch. We do that

Lindsay 6:24

too. But she

Jordan 6:25

does, she's really good about like if I'm sorting a bunch of laundry, she'll put hers in her basket and then take it to her room. So that's a good one for kiddos to help with. And then cooking. Oh, fun. Isn't really a chore, but kind of is. Definitely a really fun one for toddlers to help out with. Yes,

Lindsay 6:43

You guys probably utilized the, uh, kitchen counter tower thing. Oh, the little like stepping stool one? Yeah, yeah. Yep, definitely. I don't

Jordan 6:52

know, I mean, I don't know. It's like a stool. Tower stool. It's like a stool that has like a little. Yeah. Please walk up to it and then they're at the counter helping you out. My brain's done. You guys know what we're talking about, right? Can we stop? I bring

Lindsay 7:07

that up to the washing machine too because we have a top loader and then she like, throws the dirty clothes in and then we just bring it to the kitchen sometimes. So yeah, those are fun. Fun little chores for the kids.

Jordan 7:16

Yeah, and they feel really good about doing it. I've heard, like, having them bring the mail in even, like, all these things can really contribute to their sense of independence and value. Yeah, they feel like they're, yeah,

Lindsay 7:26

you're all part of a team. Totally. Another question we have here is what's your experience or advice for PPD, PPA, PPOCD? Oof. That is probably going to be like one big episode really soon. I was going to say, like, we could totally do, oh my god, like part one, part two. It's so much information, but it's so obviously so important to discuss because these are questions that other moms are having.

Jordan 7:57

Yeah, definitely. So what, like, I mean, you've talked about your experience with PPD.

Lindsay 8:02

Did you say you had PPA? I had PPA and PPOCD.

Jordan 8:05

You had

Lindsay 8:06

PPOCD? Oh, yes. Oh, geez, I don't think I knew that. And I think that's what triggered my PPA. Okay, interesting. And I think that this came from working in the operating room, being so in charge of the sterile field, and like everybody having what they need, and like I took that home with me, and I was like, I have to have six bottles at all times. I guess that's true, you did kind of go a little wild with that. And so like, that to me kind of is like OCD. Yeah. And I, you know. It, it turned into a little bit of PPA and then I was like, this is too much for Lindsay to handle. Yeah. So let, so I had it for a short period of time, PPA. I would love to discuss that more in an episode, but they are, They can all blend together.

Jordan 8:54

Yeah. If you will. I, yeah, I can definitely see that. I think that a cool episode would be to, for us to talk about that. in the preparation for you, like the lead up to your delivery. Oh, yes. And just talk about, like, ways that Yeah, we could do that. That you can, like, preemptively

Lindsay 9:08

Yeah. Cause then you'll be like fresh into postpartum. Maybe you'll have like a new experience or something.

Jordan 9:14

Yeah. That's, that's a hard question for me to answer because I didn't experience any of those, but I, which I feel very lucky about for sure. Those don't happen for you. Yeah, and you know they could like there are different factors at play that I've looked into like one of the questions that I had was does your chance of any of those three things increase with like a second kid, right? And it's like the answer was that not necessarily like if you have had it, then there's a greater chance you'll have it again, obviously, but maybe that's not obvious felt kind of obvious. Yeah. but the other factors are more likely like sleep deprivation. If you already have, for example, a toddler at home or, you know, like not getting enough support for like the other people in your family, like, you know, it just, everything gets more complicated with more kids. And as a result, Your chances increase slightly, I think, but, but ultimately the answer is like, not really. So

Lindsay 10:08

that's something. Yeah. This will be a good one to discuss. So we will get to this cause I have experience in it. I will say I talked a lot about Deemer in episode one, I think. Just to preface that has that is not related to postpartum depression Yeah, okay, so that's like its

Jordan 10:27

own like little so would you say you didn't have postpartum depression was just like no

Lindsay 10:33

Maybe if I if I did I don't know if it was necessarily postpartum depression or if it was like the winter blues You know, some, some kind of like, all kind of like blending together. Yeah. But I wouldn't say I was like, I wasn't, I think PPA and PPOCD really took it over for me. I didn't feel like the need to like, do it. address postpartum depression. I felt more need to address PPA and PPOCD and then I felt so much better.

Jordan 11:02

Interesting. So just really quick, what was the experience of the anxiety like for you? Like, was it coming up in the form of like thoughts that you couldn't get under control or feelings in your body? Was it more like mental or physiological?

Lindsay 11:16

Um, I would say probably physiological. I definitely could feel that more in my body. Like if I did not, you guys, if I did not have her room ready to go. Or like perfect for the every single time I entered it it would I knew I was gonna get anxious And I didn't want to derail and I wanted her room like perfectly set up Yeah shit for me to enter that nighttime I wanted like I said six bottles in the fridge ready for me to go at all times I just did not want to like feel like I was flailing and like overwhelmed or hurried or any of that. Which is

Jordan 11:54

ironic because you probably felt a lot more overwhelmed like with all that extra set up and like just the pressure that you put on yourself to have that ready to go. Don't you think? Let's not. Okay. Oh man, I

Lindsay 12:09

could listen to her whole album right now.

Jordan 12:11

Yeah. It's 90s. It's swinging right back around at us, man. Yeah, it is. Uh oh. Alright, um, yeah, so we'll address those in their own full episode. Yeah. We'll get there. They deserve it. Yep.

Lindsay 12:23

what are some unpopular parenting opinions? Oh boy. This was kind of It's a big question. This was a big question because there's so many. Dude, this is another

Jordan 12:35

episode by itself. I

Lindsay 12:36

like only picked five. Okay. I like researched and I thought of some of my own. And I like, I could have looked at this all day long and just seen like what people like were putting, you know, like putting out there on Reddit or putting out there on, um, yeah. Reddit. The black hole. Yeah. Okay. So what would you say is your, like if you had one? Car seats are not hard to install. Why do people even tell me that? Why do companies tell me that? Because they were, they are

Jordan 13:04

like, so easy installation. You think that's like a myth?

Lindsay 13:09

They're, they make it so easy, but here's the, I think here's the issue. You have the straps that need to be in a certain position, right? Yeah. what else? Like all the safety features that come with it, like, obviously like they have to be this poundage, this height to go that direction and then like, you know, Overwhelming of which one to choose and Then like also the pressure of like well I have the Nuna or I have the Duna or I have just get the great go it doesn't matter you know like you have just like a stupid amount of Brands to choose from and then you go to like maybe you want to go get it at a store and have a certified car seat person That's going to go through it all with you. And then that's for some reason feels overwhelming, but it's wonderful to like, when I put it in, I can take it to that store and I'm like, she can like overlook it and everything. Thank God. But the owner's manual is so these companies that are like trying to show you how easy, even like YouTube videos that show you how easy it is. That's reassuring that we have YouTube, but They are not, they are so hard to put. To like, manage and put in and figure out. It's a whole thing.

Jordan 14:25

Yeah, I sort of generally agree with you. I think that the ones that I've had have actually been Uh, pretty easy to install, but even the easy ones to install, I think the pressure to get it right. Oh my gosh. And then like my husband, our driveway's

Lindsay 14:38

kind of on a slope. So the stupid bubble that is supposed to be in the center doesn't work on the thing. Isn't So then you're thinking to yourself like, it's not in the center. Oh my God. Like it's just, yeah, there's a lot. So silly. Yeah. There, there is a lot. But again, safety first. I know, right? Right. So it's just like a big order. Yeah. And then I, I'll, I'll chime in on one more that is interesting. Okay. Kids don't belong in the dog park.

Jordan 15:01

That's an interesting one. So I don't have a dog. And so I don't have a lot to speak of. Have you ever, have you had a dog growing up or anything? So I, yeah, that's maybe a story that doesn't need to be told on the podcast. It was a short lived, uh, yeah, it was sad.

Lindsay 15:17

I always had dogs growing up. Yes, I brought my dog to a. Dog park and I'm glad at the time there were no children there

Jordan 15:24

because it's a safety thing again, probably right? Yeah, what is it or is it just like yeah, it's more like as a dog parent to not to have like Yeah, cuz you just don't

Lindsay 15:32

know where the kids

Jordan 15:33

are

Lindsay 15:33

gonna like pull at the you know, go to the dog's face. That's true You know, it's a wonderful world that we have dogs and that like children and dogs can like coexist But maybe not at the dog park I'm gonna agree that kids don't belong in the dog park.

Jordan 15:49

I mean it's kind of like taking, I mean it's, I guess it's, is it like taking dogs to the kid park? What do you think about that?

Lindsay 15:57

I

Jordan 15:57

don't know.

Lindsay 15:59

Like if you're having a picnic way off to the side and your dog is beha, like well behaved and trained to like be over on the side at your picnic with another person, that's kind of cute.

Jordan 16:10

Yeah. And fine. I I've never felt threatened by dogs at kid parks, but then I can see, I mean, obviously there's room for disaster.

Lindsay 16:18

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know that the only thing I can make, I guess, I don't bring my dog to the kid's park for a reason. Just because I'm trying to like, watch my kid and interact with her.

Jordan 16:31

Yeah, that's fair. Screen time is another one that is like, okay, so the, the, but the hot take specifically is that, And this is, I do kind of, I'm going to say I kind of agree with this hot take. And that's that being anti screen time is a privilege. Like, I think screen time, we don't love it for our kid. She gets, I mean, she gets screen time. It's not like we don't like let her watch any at all. Cause I think there's definitely like a balance to be struck. And this is its own episode too, to be totally honest. Um, but I think in general, I agree that it is definitely a privilege. Um, some parents just don't have time to get anything done without. And you can be like, Oh, but you can give your kid like another activity. You've got to set that other activity up. They might not engage with it. Like, what if you've got something that's time sensitive? Like it's, it's a pretty like universally true thing that a show will entertain your kid. And there are quality programs out there that you can put on for your kid too. Yeah, they're fine. I don't know. Yeah.

Lindsay 17:31

I, uh, I would say I was probably more opinionated about this before I had kids, which is funny. And I don't think that's uncommon. I think that's because you and I worked in the restaurant world and we're like, we'll never put our kids, you know, never do that to our kids. Yeah. Well, once I had a kid, I was like, you have no idea what kind of day that parent had. All is fine.

Jordan 17:53

Yeah, and maybe they have only gone out to eat once that whole year. Yeah. And they didn't have anyone to watch their kid. Yes. And they wanted just a moment to themselves. Yeah, it's all good. Yeah. Like,

Lindsay 18:03

yeah. My child, she gets screen time, I would say maybe once or twice a week, but it's because I have stuff, I have, I have shit to do.

Jordan 18:12

And I also will throw in there that I'm very pregnant right now, and I was sick last week, and being pregnant and sick meant that my kid was laying on the couch next to me watching her show while I took a nap because I needed it, man. My

Lindsay 18:26

daughter had the, had a little bit of sickness too, and she, Was so upset and like needy and in a not bad way. I don't, I don't say needy in a bad way. Like, she had to be held and had to be picked up and like, there was no way. So I was like, you know what? We're going to have some milk and we're just going to watch Peppa Pig for a little bit and relax. Everything's going to be fine. It's all going to be fine. Yep. Okay Another one. Oh, you don't need a themed nursery. I agree with that. A themed nursery? Yeah. That's silly. You know, like how, if you go on Pinterest To think that you would need one. Yeah, I think I'm not saying they're silly in general. I'm just saying, like It's, yeah, like, the whole idea of, oh my gosh, like, we're having a, say it's your first, and you're like, I need, need to do this, and you do not. Yeah, I know. But I think there's, like, a weird, like, Pinterest y pressure. I definitely got sucked down that hole when I was setting up the

Jordan 19:17

nursery for my kid.

Lindsay 19:18

I can see how it It could be fun for like some parents that really want to do that. That's cool. And if that makes you happy, go for it uh, toddlers don't need formal learning every day. Example, like flashcards. Oh, yeah. And, and have more unstructured play. I agree with that. I agree with that. Yep. For

Jordan 19:35

sure. Yeah. Toddlers are learning, oh my god, dude. So much from play. All day. And, and everything else, dude. My kid's picking up crazy words from just me and my husband having a conversation. Like, she's not even being attended to and she's like, just absolutely a sponge. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Kids don't need as much as we think they do. No. No. That's for

Lindsay 19:54

sure. Absolutely not.

Jordan 19:56

I've got a question. Okay. This one is probably more for you than for me. Oh. What are your thoughts about tradwives? Do you consider yourself to be one?

Lindsay 20:06

Yeah,

Jordan 20:07

uh,

Lindsay 20:08

Okay. I mean, not yeah, as in yes, I am one. Trad wives. Do you, are you familiar with that? I, so is this the whole thing like where it's like gender roles? Yeah, basically. I don't believe in that. I would leave kind of away from that, but ironically, in my home, like my husband Like you are a tradwife. Like my, like my husband is the breadwinner in our home right now because I'm staying home. Yeah. And I'm doing like the homey things. Yeah. Which has been kind of like tradwifey for like Tell me

Jordan 20:43

about, tell me about what homey things you're doing.

Lindsay 20:45

Oh my gosh. No, I, dude, you're going to let those, my husband's great when he is directed to help me with things. Um, but right now I am like fucking cleaning and like quilting. Yeah, I guess I am quilting. Well, no, he's canning. Okay. I'm just helping with that. He's canning. Who cooks, who

Jordan 21:15

cooks every, who, talk to me about your meal times.

Lindsay 21:19

Meal times? Uh, we do our own breakfasts. And then obviously like I manage me and my daughter's like lunch and then I manage our dinners too. And I like he, but he and I have like full open conversations like what should we do for dinner? Should we just order in or out or whatever? He cooks too. He is. He for sure cooks too. He totally loves to cook. Yeah. But I'm totally like more like, I guess, is this also blending in with like mental load? Oh God. Like for like preparation of like the home and the child and like us as a couple. Yeah. Because If that blends in,

Jordan 21:54

but if that blends in, I'm a trad wife and I'm kind of not very close to being a trad wife in any other way. Cause I work, I mean, I think it's mostly like, I guess is

Lindsay 22:03

this like

Jordan 22:04

if you believe in it, you're doing it. Well, no, I know. That's why there were two questions here. So like, what are your thoughts about it? So your, what would your thoughts about trad wives in general be? Cause this is such a hot topic on the internet right now. I

Lindsay 22:15

guess like if like you, whoever's who, someone has to stay home.

Jordan 22:22

But that's not true because me and Adrian both work. Someone doesn't have to stay home, you can pick up from a daycare. I mean, I don't know. This is so tricky. She's vexed.

Lindsay 22:34

Yeah. It's like, this is a big topic.

Jordan 22:38

I think that if it's someone's dream to be a tradwife and a stay at home mom sort of vibe. Yeah, that's

Lindsay 22:42

not my

Jordan 22:42

dream, but I'm doing it.

Lindsay 22:44

For the sake of like not paying for child care and it allows us to travel throughout the year and Whatever because if I had to request all that time off that would be not okay for any employer

Jordan 22:55

yeah. I mean, my job, let me do that for like five years, but that was, that was, I mean, I had, yeah,

Lindsay 23:04

your husband was not here, but.

Jordan 23:09

Tricky. So you, in general, uh, you don't want to be a trad wife, but you are one. In the role of being a homemaker

Lindsay 23:16

right now,

Jordan 23:17

yeah.

Lindsay 23:18

It's not something that, like, I'm like, that was my goal and that, like, I believed that I would. Proud about it. Yeah,

Jordan 23:25

but I'm not ashamed either. I'm sure it

Lindsay 23:27

took that being a trad wife I took away like a big chunk is taking away a big chunk of my identity. Let's just say that

Jordan 23:33

yeah, that's interesting I think that's really interesting that could be maybe be another topic we talk about in more detail Yeah, um in another episode, I will off the back of that Ask you Which is another question, would you like to go back to work at some point? Yeah You

Lindsay 23:51

Like, you think that would be good for you? I miss the operating room slightly. I don't miss Slightly. Put me in like a medical spot, please. And I'm happy because it's like a great schedule. Not that the schedule has to be for my family's sake, but like literally for me. Like, I'm done doing call in the middle of the night. I'm done working stressful hours. I want to work with a great surgical team. Um,

Jordan 24:19

yeah. That you work with regularly. Yeah. That's also like

Lindsay 24:23

a structure. I will not be going back to the restaurant. Yeah. I mean, I did love hospitality for a long time. I think that's such a wonderful thing, but I also, I'm a certified, functional nutritional coach. Okay. So, so that I would absolutely love to like. Put more effort and time into when I go back. Cause then I can come up with my own schedule. I just, man, I hate working for other people.

Jordan 24:51

Yeah, it can be tough, but working for yourself is, I mean, tough and a grind. I'm going to go ahead and say it's much harder. You got to come up with everything. Well, like every thought process. Yeah, my husband runs his own business and it's like, it's not for the faint of heart. Let's put it that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. So I would, yeah. So what about you? Probably not a trad wife. Like when you like see, what's your like a dream job? You know what I would love to do for work if it was possible. I would love, if I could do anything and get paid to do it, it would be just simply going to school. Like learning. Oh my god. Not researching. Just straight up like, you know, learning, studying. That's like my favorite pastime. Oh that's amazing. That or like something movement related. Not necessarily like a Cirque du Soleil type person, but like if I could do something like Some combination of like physical therapy and like something that makes it a little bit more fun. Yeah, and like applicable to everyone There's probably a job out there that does that. Yeah, that'd be really cool to like Yeah, I just want, I would want something that like forces me to be really fit and healthy and active and like be having fun with other people, ideally outside, but getting paid to do it. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, I work in a restaurant because those jobs are like, they're allowing, they're elusive.

Lindsay 26:14

And they're allowing you like a schedule that you can, well, yes. I mean, there's a thousand reasons I work in a restaurant still, but yes.

Jordan 26:20

Anyway, we can push that to the side. Oh, but I'm not a trad wife. You are not. But I don't have anything against trad wives. That's my, that's my answer to the question. It's short. Short and sweet. If you want to be a trad wife, you go be a trad wife. Um, it is also a privilege to be a trad wife. Yes it is. I will definitely say that. Not everybody has that privilege.

Lindsay 26:43

Yep. I'm putting my hands together in prayer like, thank you husband for having me. Your career. Appreciate it. Thank you so much for allowing this situation. I, cause like I, I do like as hard as it is and it's like not, I mean, this is, this is like the, this is a harder job than it was when I was working two jobs. Yeah. Um, parenting. Yeah. Parenting is so much harder, but it's, it's really beautiful and like kind of unique you know, I'm still working through like the whole like identity thing. Yeah. Anyways, yeah. All right, well, we can carry on. Big topic. Big topic. Yeah. Big topic. All right. Cursing in front of your kids. Oh. Do you curse in front of your kid? We specifically do not, say the F bomb in front of them, in front of her. Mm

27:33

hmm.

Lindsay 27:33

Mm hmm. Ironically, like if something's left in the oven roasting, that's when it comes out like, Oh shit. Oh shit. Yeah. Oh shit. That's still in the oven. Or, oh shit. Or yeah. Then she. She knows what we're saying, because she totally repeated it one time after my husband said it. Yesterday she was saying, oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck. So you do say that. Well, I don't know where she got it, because I don't say that in front of her. Oh dear. She went across the street. The other day and hung out and got babysat for a few hours and the house was full of kiddos. I don't know, maybe, but I have no idea. And I was like, interesting. We were coloring. Yeah. Just excited and happy and energetic and was saying it over and over. Like, I'm like, are you saying, are you trying to say buck? Cause we have like, Yeah, we have European buck mounts in our house. And I was like, are you trying to say buck? And she ran in there, in the other room where it is, and she's like, oh fuck. Like, it was that clear. So was she saying buck then? She was. I don't know. She was at, but her, but her, but her word, fuck was so precise. Does she say buck clearly? Yes. Huh. Maybe she was just, I don't know, man. She was, I don't know. So I was like, I don't know where you got this. Yeah. But I think, I mean,

Jordan 28:52

kids are going to hear cursing inevitably. I think, yeah, me and my husband never really curbed it. We just barely started to stop saying the F word in front of our kid. but we still kind of do a little bit here and there. We don't. I mean, yeah, I don't really, I don't mind at this stage if she swears a little bit. I think the important thing is once they get older that you teach them like why we swear and how, like how it's used and, and how it's okay to swear and maybe how it's not okay to swear. And for me, that would be like, if you hurt yourself and you want to be Or something, then that's fine. But if you're trying to like hurt someone else's feelings and you're cursing at them, that's not, you know, it's like basic etiquette, kindness stuff.

Lindsay 29:36

When I'm on Marco with you, I let some words. Oh yeah. That's could also be where she's picking up. I would definitely say, yeah, I definitely dropped those bombs. I'm on Marco

Jordan 29:45

Polo with you. I just, it's her listening to me.

Lindsay 29:48

Oh God. It could be me too. So there, she could be picking it up from that. Yeah. Um, But yeah, I think you're right. I think teach the teaching eventually is about curse words and the meanings. And at this

Jordan 30:02

age, if anyone's offended by a two year old saying, oh fuck, then they aren't somebody I need to be like, cared about their opinion. Exactly. Yeah. Alright, so the last question that I think we have is, What is a bucket list item you have for the next, like, five to ten years as a family unit of four? An item? An item or like? Just like, what's something you dream of doing with your family? Like with young ish kids.

Lindsay 30:30

So I'm pregnant right now, I'm due first week of February, all of our birthdays are like within a matter of like six weeks right? Yeah, me and my daughter are the same and then my husband's the following and then like, that one will be like a month later. Yeah, so I've talked about this with my husband and I've always thought, we're right around Christmas, we're right into the new year, it would be so wonderful to like get to a point in our lives where we just start doing a big trip as a family for all of us to go on and celebrate each other and celebrate our birthdays. Oh cute, like a family birthday trip? Yeah. That's a good idea. Would you do that after

Jordan 31:09

Christmas or would it also be a Christmas trip? It could be either. Yeah, it could be over Christmas. It

Lindsay 31:13

could be in February. It could be in January. I don't know. But. I've just talked about that with my husband. Like that's something I think might be considered a bucket list item is like doing a big, what would that,

Jordan 31:26

what would the trip look like? Where would you

Lindsay 31:27

want to

Jordan 31:27

go?

Lindsay 31:27

Like if you had to decide anywhere around the world, New Zealand, it's like my huge bucket list, um, place to go Europe. I've never been to Europe. Oh, I want to go stuff. I know, I know. And there's like, obviously really cool places in the U S too. Yeah, cool Like just celebrate all of us as a family and all of our birthdays and that's like my bucket list item.

Jordan 31:51

Yeah, I love that

Lindsay 31:52

so far

Jordan 31:54

Shoot. I don't have an answer for this one. I guess I should have thought about it sooner a Bucket list item. Uh, you know what I would love to do is like spend an entire year with my family getting really strong rock climbing Yeah, once everyone's all of

Lindsay 32:09

you. Yeah. I mean

Jordan 32:10

like, I don't care if my kids aren't into it as long as they're happy to come with these little rock climbing trips. Um, that would be like for me just personally, very selfishly, that would be like definitely my bucket list item. I think as I go somewhere like Epic, well, yeah, like, Ooh, I could cross two off with one. Here you go. Cause I was going to just say my husband's would be to take our kids like snorkeling. And like just generally like out on like a boat type trip.

32:37

Yeah.

Jordan 32:38

but his parents, his dad's from Spain and we also are, have been talking a lot about taking a trip to Mallorca, which is a Spanish island. Oh my gosh. That has tons of rock climbing. That's epic. So he and I could go like meet his parents in Spain instead of in England. Cause that would be a little bit more

Lindsay 32:56

fun. That's a bucket list item place for me and my husband to go together. Like on our anniversary.

Jordan 33:03

That'd be cool. Yeah. I mean, I would just be down to take my kids because it, the, yeah, the climbing's insane. The cool ocean's insane. Of course. My husband's been there. I haven't, it's, it's kind of been on our list for a long time, so that would probably be near the top of my,

Lindsay 33:16

we're, we're on like the same like trip, trip, trip as a family. Yeah. Go to cool places. Yeah.

Jordan 33:22

I mean, yeah, and the climbing one that I had could totally just live in Utah. I don't even, there's so much good climbing here. I live here for a reason. I just haven't been doing that. Yeah. I'm very pregnant. Yeah. She's craving to get back into it. I just want to feel my body like feeling powerful again. Yeah. Oh God, I get it. It'll happen. You guys, it's going to happen. I swear. It will.

Lindsay 33:48

Pregnancy

Jordan 33:48

does end. It does.

Lindsay 33:50

You're planning on just having two officially, right? Yeah, oh yeah.

Jordan 33:53

Yeah, I'm not doing this again. All right, so you have like one last question, right? I'm gonna ask it but it's like kind of how we wrap up our episodes. So it's our yeah, it's our last question And it's also our recommendation.

Lindsay 34:05

Yeah, what's your next book club read? You We just did the fourth trimester by Kimberly Ann Johnson. That was a really fun one to dive into and discuss. And she listened to it. I read it and highlighted a bunch of things and we talked about it together. And then we talked about the episode or talked about it on podcast. Now our next one, Jordan brought this book to my attention. The person who asked this question. recommended this book as well.

Jordan 34:31

Oh, no way. Yes. Oh, that's so funny. I was like, that's ideal.

Lindsay 34:35

Well,

Jordan 34:35

that's definitely the one we're going to do. Yeah. So yeah.

Lindsay 34:38

So this book, I just I got it recently is called How Not to Hate Your Husband After Kids by Jancy Dunn. Um, just to preface, like, I hear the title of the book is a little, like, more strong than the humorous part of the book. Is that

Jordan 34:56

correct? I mean, yeah, it's definitely like the title's tongue in cheek. It's like, not meant to be totally taken seriously, but then also like, have you ever like, are you telling me you've never, maybe a little bit? No, I'm, I'm kidding. But, but for real, this, this is a book that I, I was recommended this book on a podcast that a couple's therapist was, speaking on and they were saying that they recommend it to people who aren't even parents because the information in it is incredibly valuable just for, just relationally, just between you and your partner. And I was like, Oh, that sounds like a good read and all. And then I kind of was like new into, I think the postpartum world and I, me and my husband never really had issues. Like we had our mental load stuff mostly figured out and all that like but then but I but I listened to the book and I still found so much value in it. I'm excited to revisit it a couple years later.

Lindsay 35:50

Yep. I'm gonna start reading a few pages a night Yeah. Cause I'm not gonna have time to read this. Dude, I don't know.

Jordan 35:57

I have a book club next weekend and I have not even opened the book floor. Oh, man. I'm like, I've been so busy, oh my god. You read really fast though. I read really slowly, I just like reading so I read a lot. But I'm thinking I'm just going to audiobook this one and listen to it on my way to and from work because that's a decent amount of time. Cool.

Lindsay 36:18

Anyway. We're recommending that book, How Not to Hate Your Husband After Kids. It'll probably

Jordan 36:25

be a while before we drop that episode. It'll be like, I'm not even going to say when. Yeah, I don't even know. It's going to be in at least five to ten episodes, if not more. Yeah, yeah. It's down the way. You've got time to read it. Cool. I'll get after it. Unless this, unless you're listening ten years later. I'm going to cut that. Yeah. Why did I say that? I'm like, this person could listen to that episode tomorrow. Oh, I forget how this works. Okay. Neat.

Lindsay 36:51

Alright, so that's our Q& A. That was, Random, really cool, we clearly have more topics for episodes than we possibly had. Like the PPA, PPD, PPOCD, and then the TradWives thing.

Jordan 37:03

And the, Screen time. Oh, yeah, that's when we could dive into some research for for sure. Yeah, I think yep. Yeah, cool Well follow us. Uh, we're uh, um, and we're

Lindsay 37:14

instagramming We're instagramming. We're not on x we are not on. I mean,

Jordan 37:19

I don't have that much time Um, so we have kids podcast is our little handle on insta. You can find us at we have kids podcast. com Uh, our website's cool. Check it out. Like, subscribe, whatever. Do anything your little heart is, um, feeling tender enough to do for us today. And, have a nice rest of your day. Day, night, week. Yeah, wherever you're at in your day. Yeah, get after

Lindsay 37:45

it.

Jordan 37:45

Yep.

Lindsay 37:46

Okay. Relax. Just relax. That's what I'm gonna go to. Get some food in your belly, some hydration, and relax. That's all I, that's all I really care about. Okay. Cheers to that. Okay, bye. Bye.