Lindsay: 0:00

I tied my shoes and we just started running.

Jordan: 0:04

Because by now your gate's open. Yeah. It's probably closing pretty soon.

Lindsay: 0:08

Yeah, we were running and it was so cute because I would like look down at my

Jordan: 0:12

daughter and her hair's just like fluffing in the wind. And she's like looking

Lindsay: 0:18

around chill.

Jordan: 0:29

Okay. Ola. Ola Hello everybody. Hey everyone. Welcome back. This is, we have kids. We have kids. I've got a kid. Lindsay's got a kid.

Lindsay: 0:41

Yeah, I have a kid. Oh yeah, yeah.

Jordan: 0:47

Here we go. Here we go. We had our warranty. Yeah, we got some warm tea and water. Warm tea and water. What kind of tea did you pour yourself? I went for the rooibos too. Rooibos.

Lindsay: 0:59

Rooibos. It's so good. I'll drink it year round. Yeah. Cold in the summer,

Jordan: 1:05

warm right now. Ooh, I haven't done cold in the summer. Dude, you have to. Oh, that sounds great. I bet that's lovely. Do you know what I really like with this? Oh yeah, with lemon. Lemon sounds good. Um, I sometimes if I want a little bit of caffeine, I will do a little bit of rooibos and a little bit of like just a plain roasted green tea. And it's so nice because you get the like floral sort of like really nice aromatics from the rooibos and then you just get that nice like bitter. Like earth. Yeah. On

Lindsay: 1:34

like the palate. I've never mixed it with anything else because I just. Could chug it.

Jordan: 1:40

It's so good.

Lindsay: 1:42

Yeah, if y'all

Jordan: 1:43

haven't tried that. Go try some red

Lindsay: 1:45

tea. It's so hard, like every time I have that as an option, I go for it every single time.

Jordan: 1:49

That's good to know. I'll make you more next time. It's kind of cold in my basement where we're recording so I thought maybe I'd treat Lindsay to some tea. I almost, I was this close to grabbing, Lindsay brought home, she just went on like a little holiday trip, which we'll get into. Um, she went on a little holiday trip to, Michigan. And she made these incredible caramels. I say caramel, do you say caramel or caramel? Caramel. Okay, yeah, me too. I've been, like, trying to play with saying caramel. Caramel. I don't know, it, like, sounds nice and I, I realize that's how it's spelled. Yeah. And my little sister's a total foodie and she always says caramel and I'm like, shit. Every

Lindsay: 2:26

time I'm typing it out, I say car a mel. So I'm, like, spelling it correctly. So I should probably start saying caramel. Yeah, whatever. Either way. Yeah, our family made They're so good. Yeah, we all got together and we kind of tag teamed these little Honey caramels and they're just

Jordan: 2:43

incredible. Yeah, they're amazing. Good. Yeah. And the other night I was, well, she brought back a whole bunch for me because she's the very best friend. But the other night I was, yeah, you had to share.

Lindsay: 2:56

I can't keep all this

Jordan: 2:58

shit load. So yeah, I can only imagine they're dangerous to have around. But I poured a little teeny little splash of bourbon, put it a little ice in there and then, The caramel with the bourbon, it was stupid. I almost did that for us. Like, yeah,

Lindsay: 3:15

you could have You just don't have enough

Jordan: 3:19

bourbon to share it. Yeah, you Just kidding

Lindsay: 3:22

No, I totally

Jordan: 3:27

have enough to share

Lindsay: 3:28

you yeah you tried it and you texted Sweet. And I was like, shut up. No

Jordan: 3:33

way. And then you got a picture like a minute later. You were in bed? Yes.

Lindsay: 3:37

Yeah. Cause I vowed to be in bed by 930 I love it. It was around that time. And so I was relaxing in bed and you're like, dude, you have to. So I was like, shut up. I'm going to go do it right now. So I did it and it was the perfect little nightcap. And it was so interesting because you're like, I was tasting it and It literally made the caramel, like, more butterier. I don't even know, that's not proper grammar. But, more buttery. More

Jordan: 4:05

buttery. Is

Lindsay: 4:07

that what you said? I was going to say butterier, but then that's not technically a word. So you have to say more buttery. More buttery. Anyways, every single time I took a sip of that bourbon, and then took another bite, it was like, Oh, man, it got better and better every time. Yeah, it

Jordan: 4:25

was nice, too. I couldn't believe, like, how well that was. Oh, it was great. Yeah, the bourbon kind of, like, slashed the, like, overly sweetness that you get when you eat a lot of the caramel, but then, like, just the aftertaste was just, like, vanilla and butter. Yeah, yeah. And just the warmest,

Lindsay: 4:41

nicest. Yep. So, what's unique about this caramel is that it has honey in the batter as well. So it's not just like your traditional like butter sugar. Yeah. It's got that honey, like, like sharpness in it. Oh

Jordan: 4:56

man. And then they're covered in chocolate.

Lindsay: 4:58

Yeah, and then we did, uh, like sea sea flake salt

Jordan: 5:02

on top. But everyone wishes they had one right now. I kind of

Lindsay: 5:08

do. I'm

Jordan: 5:13

gonna have enough for the whole year. Oh, yeah.

Lindsay: 5:16

Yeah, we're back from travel. Yeah, officially. I don't travel again now till, like, how many more months? Four, four more, four or five more months. It's like a long break.

Jordan: 5:28

Yeah, I mean, I guess that's a long break. Mm hmm.

Lindsay: 5:32

Skipping the whole spring break this year. Which is Man, I think this is the first time I'm skipping a spring break.

Jordan: 5:40

Really? Do you typically travel for a spring break? Yeah,

Lindsay: 5:42

like ever since college. Why? You don't have to go when everyone else goes. I know, right? Yeah. But why is that a thing? That's so funny. That's like such a thing

Jordan: 5:53

for a lot of people. I know what, you're totally right. You're totally right, because Adrienne's parents Our kids are going to be on spring break, and then it's going to happen. Yeah, it's like a whole thing. Yeah, Adrienne's parents always get I mean, I guess his mom works in school systems, so they always get like Easter holiday offers. And in Europe, that's quite a big thing. Yeah, she teaches That's really cool. Yeah, um, what do they call it? Like, primary school is what they call it in the UK. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, yeah. So they We actually have traveled quite a lot in Like spring break ish time too. And that's when it's slow season at Sundance. So I'm like, fully giving you shit when I do the exact same thing. So, that's cool. Yeah, but welcome, welcome home. Yeah,

Lindsay: 6:33

thanks. Here we are,

Jordan: 6:34

new year. Yeah, new year. I don't feel like much else is new for me.

Lindsay: 6:40

No, this, uh, Yeah. This is a new year for me, like. In parenthood, but like, it just seems like it's like blending and continuing. Yeah,

Jordan: 6:52

it all just blends together. Yeah, we went to bed early New Year's Eve. Yeah, I wish I could have, I was working, but. Yeah, still had a great night. Good. Yeah. Well, I guess we can dive into, if you all have heard enough now about, uh, Carmel's, yeah,

Lindsay: 7:11

Carmel tea and spring ranch.

Jordan: 7:14

We can actually get into something that's useful. Maybe. Yeah. Um, cool. Yeah. So today we're going to talk about travel. We mentioned it in an earlier podcast and we now we're both back from various trips and yeah. We're ready to just

Lindsay: 7:31

give out some tips and chit chat and laugh

Jordan: 7:34

about a little bit of the situation we had. I'm gonna ask you, yeah, oh dang, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, what would be your very first tip, Lindsay? If you had to think about it, what would be your very first tip? Gee. Let's just tell, we could just tell a quick story. Let's just tell a quick story. Okay, okay. Alright, so Lindsay and I had a little bit of a fun, Lindsay especially, I think had fun. Yeah,

Lindsay: 8:03

my body went through it. Alright, Jordan and I have a lovely little kind of pact going where we offer each other a ride to

Jordan: 8:12

the airport. Saves us paying for parking. Yep.

Lindsay: 8:16

Just, uh, we, it works out. And, uh, you're going to laugh our way through this whole story. Just you buckle it. It was, uh, yeah. So my husband and our dog drove to Michigan from Utah. It's a far drive. So he got a headstart and left a couple of days early. Uh, my daughter and I flew out of here. On a nonstop flight, which I always recommend. So first tip.

Jordan: 8:51

Oh God. Let's just pay the extra little bit and do nonstop. I fully, fully agree with that. Just do it. Yep.

Lindsay: 8:59

Um, man, I don't, I've never, I've only connected to one of the times that I've flown over the summer and I refuse. Yeah, actually multiple times. Sorry. I was going to say, I think that's wrong. That was multiple times. Anyways. Um, so she. offered to give us a ride up to the airport and early morning. I think you had to be at my house at 630? Yeah, 630. 630 AM. So I had to wake up my daughter for the day, which I felt terrible, but it is what it is. And, uh, she did, she, she did pretty well. Um, and I gave her some milk before we left, shut down the house, you know, make sure all the doors are locked. Yeah. Yeah. You know the thing. And I set garbages out on the street. I said all my bags out front ready to get in the car out of the house. And that's where our fun begins. So, Jordan's coming over early, Chipper, what can I help with?

Jordan: 9:58

Yeah, yeah. Tell me, tell me what go inside, Lindsay's like, I'm like, okay, well, what are you bringing? And she's like, well, I have this one carry on, I've got my con game backpack, like diaper bag, and then I've got this, like, other little black bag. Yep. The black

Lindsay: 10:09

bag had, like, uh, my daughter's formula in. And it also had passport and like all the important documents because it was easy to access.

Jordan: 10:17

Stuff you want when you travel, you could say, you could say that. So I think, you know, this is going through the airport. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, well, uh, that's cool. I'm going to like, rearrange my car. Cause I had like, my sister had borrowed all my snowboarding kit. So it was, and I forgot that it was all in the, back of my car. So I was like, Oh no, I need to go and sort this out so I can fit Lindsay stuff in. And then I was like, Oh, well she's only got this many things. I can probably fit that in like the front seat. And she told me she wanted to sit in the back so I'm like, okay, I'll grab, I'll grab her suitcase and I'll put it in the front and then, you know, I'll make sure she has space. So my frazzled mom brain is like worried about making sure Lindsay's comfy in the back seat, that it's like nice and clear because it was not. To at all clear So I'm clearing everything out, put her thingy in, and then she comes through the garage door, opens the garage, yeah. Yeah. Ready to go. Yeah. And then we trip. Yeah. So we're ready to go. So we buckle her in. Yeah.

Lindsay: 11:12

I saw you take my suitcase and I blacked that out. Yeah.'cause I was like, she's got it. I'm gonna fix up all these other things I got going on and we were having a little like. Issue with the seatbelt and at that moment you're like, oh dude, do you need help with that? I'm like, yeah, why not? So I think you were I think

Jordan: 11:28

that's yeah when things may have gone. Yeah,

Lindsay: 11:30

and so then you helped me with the good old stroller car seat and We

Jordan: 11:41

talked

Lindsay: 11:44

and we chatted and we had a great like

Jordan: 11:46

trip all the way up there. Yeah, it's like an hour About an hour away. Yeah

Lindsay: 11:51

Mm. Yeah. It's an hour away.

Jordan: 11:55

Yeah. So it's not that close. Pull

Lindsay: 11:58

in, I dunno. Yeah. Pull in. I head up front to grab the bags. I see one and I'm like, oh, were the other two small

Jordan: 12:06

bags, And I was like, she's like, I don't have'em. Are you kidding? Yeah. You were like, you were like, whatcha talking about. I was like, Lindsay, you were sitting in the back there, in the back, right? They're back there, right?

Lindsay: 12:21

No. And that's when, uh, I probably almost barfed

Jordan: 12:24

everywhere. I think, yeah, I think, yeah. So I, like, hurried. I was like, Oh my god, I just fully did not pack Lindsay's things like

Lindsay: 12:34

it took us both like a hot minute to be like we really both like forgot that

Jordan: 12:39

yeah like she's sitting on your porch

Lindsay: 12:40

yeah like for for reals it was both our issue because you were you were helping me you got distracted I got distracted I should have like totally double checked because I'm the freaking mom.

Jordan: 12:51

But you may have like double checked and in your head been like, Yeah, well Jordan had that pile of stuff. I saw my bag in her car. It's like clearly she grabbed that stuff. I, like, it's, yeah, it's a forgivable mistake. But anyway, don't make that mistake everybody. It was so, it was so stressful. Because 7. 30 in the morning, so people still aren't up and about. But I called my husband anyway, I'm like, Adrian, help. You've gotta get our kid up. See if my sister can watch her. and drive as fast as you can to the airport. And he's like, okay, well, she just woke up. Jocelyn has to work, and I was like, oh my

Lindsay: 13:28

god. Yeah, and it was just, all it took was probably ten long seconds of like, And I was like, I'm

Jordan: 13:35

calling my neighbor. I could see your face in my head. You were like, this isn't going to work. This isn't going to work. Like, I don't have time for him to pack up her kid.

Lindsay: 13:43

As much as I'd be like, of course, like, I want you to like, make sure that your baby can come and like, and like, in that moment, you're just like, I can't actually, can not handle,

Jordan: 13:54

nope, that's nope. So thank God Lindsay has another really good neighbor. Yeah. So

Lindsay: 14:00

I was like, I'm calling my neighbors right now because I know their home. and I'm like dude. I'm so sorry to get you out of bed right now. You gotta do me the biggest Biggest favor. There are two bags outside my front door Those are mine, and I am at the airport, and I need them now. And she's like, Okay. So she like, literally crawled out of bed, went over, kept in touch with me. Have you ever been so like kind of anxiously nervous your body just uncontrollably shakes Yeah, a little like tremor. Yeah, like tremor like that was going on So I just had to like keep my cool like breathe and keep my cool cuz I had already like I was by myself. You're

Jordan: 14:39

already traveling alone with a one year old. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a lot. It's a big task. Such a big task. I don't know

Lindsay: 14:46

why, like, it's just so freaky. I got it down. I have a system down with what I need to bring and how many packets I have.

Jordan: 14:51

Yeah, but it doesn't matter because there are so many variables that are outside of your control. Yes. Yeah. Is there going to be traffic? Is there going to be, like, a huge line at TSA? I mean, it's like one of the busiest travel days of the year that you were traveling

Lindsay: 15:02

on. Yeah, I'm like, there's that line inside is probably enormous, but oh my God. Um, fast forward, the TSA was incredibly

Jordan: 15:10

quick. She made it on her flight, everyone. I did run. I would like everyone to know that she made it on her, I did not ruin her travel. No, and here's the

Lindsay: 15:19

thing too, I was talking to my therapist about this. Of course. Here's the thing too. It would have worked out. I would have gotten on another flight. I would have like. Eventually, but you would have been

Jordan: 15:30

stuck at the airport with a one year old who you didn't pack enough food for a full day for. Like. It would have been, I mean, I would have been driving up. I, I would have fixed it. I would have made sure your kid had food, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, you would have survived and you would have made it to Michigan eventually. Yeah. But I would not wish that experience on anyone. Yeah.

Lindsay: 15:53

So anyways, I had the tremors going. And I go, like, I say my goodbyes to Jordan and she just feels like a dick. And I'm like, dude, it's

Jordan: 16:01

okay. Like, I feel like such an asshole. Did I Marco Polo Lindsay every single like five minutes on the way back? Like, don't worry. The traffic is still clear on the other side of the freeway. I will let you know in five more minutes what it looks like. So that's all I could do. I had nothing else to do. I was like, I was such a good,

Lindsay: 16:20

you're a good friend for just like making sure. I go inside and I'm just like thinking, like, bring it down a notch. My daughter's happiest can be and I was like, I'm checking this bag. I brought a carry on, the bag that you packed. I was going to do a carry on. Um, but I was like, no, I'm checking this and one last thing to do. So I like call my husband, tell him, he's like, yo, what's up? How's the day? How's the travel going? Like, I'm like, well, well, I think I have enough time, but I'm not a hundred percent sure. Here's the situation. And I broke down in

Jordan: 16:55

tears. Yeah, I'm sure you did,

Lindsay: 16:59

dude. I broke down in tears and I just thought, cause he was just like. It's okay, it's okay, we'll figure it out, like, it'll be fine, and I was like, I think I'm just, I'm not like Sad I'm just like kind of disappointed in myself that I didn't double check like something that simple.

Jordan: 17:14

Yeah, and obviously like the lead up to a flight Brings with it a little bit of Extra just mental load and nervousness and whatever else. And if you're doing it with a baby, especially, yeah, you're going to have a lot of tension and anxiety that you're bringing with you with through all that planning, all that preparation, and then you get there and it didn't all go according to plan. Like any situation you put yourself in where there's that much planning and preparation and it goes to shit, you're going to be feeling. Bummed. Oh, yeah, so bummed.

Lindsay: 17:44

Yeah, but it wasn't like a full on ball sesh It was just like my nerves my nerve system was like kind of releasing itself totally And so but he made me feel great and I knew I was gonna be fine and I was like, okay let's let's just go over to this like quiet area in the corner before we go through TSA and my daughter had a wonderful time, like she pushed the stroller, she played, there was someone with her puppy and she was just obsessed and like, it was a really like, good time for her to be active and play around and whatever, and my neighbor, she's so great, she calls me and she's keeping me posted, she's like, alright, I'm at this door, like poor thing is like in her pajamas still. Oh, I think she was in her slippers still and like, no coffee

Jordan: 18:27

yet. Nothing. And I'm like, was God bless

Lindsay: 18:30

you, Lindsay's neighbor. I like, wish I could have talked to her for a few extra minutes in that moment, but I had to like literally run Mm-Hmm. So I was like, thank you, thank you, thank you. You have no idea. I owe you like. Bye. We'll get you something. I gotta go. I turn around and just start running. And then TSA was wonderful. And this TSA security check. She saw my stroller and she's like, Alright, bring that over and get ahead of everybody. And

Jordan: 18:55

I'm like, you

Lindsay: 18:56

got it. I got in front of everybody. It was quick. I love that. Yeah, it was a quick, like, It was quick to get through. I tied my shoes and we just started running.

Jordan: 19:07

Because by now your gate's open. Yeah. It's probably closing pretty soon.

Lindsay: 19:11

Yeah, we were running and so it was so cute because I would like look down at my

Jordan: 19:16

daughter and her hair's just like fluffing in the wind. And she's like looking

Lindsay: 19:22

around chill. So no time for a potty, no time for a diaper change. Uh, yeah, so my body kind of went through the wringer as far as like just being like anxious, nauseous, adrenaline, sweating from running. Mhm. Took me a hot minute to come down, but I turned my wifi on. I got a hold of you, I think, and I was like, I'm Jill, and I'm finally relaxed. I think I was like halfway through there. From halfway through the flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my first tip

Jordan: 19:58

Our, our first tip for all of you friends driving your friends to the airport. Do you have all your bags? Do you have them all with you? Did you bring them? You packed them. Did you put them in the car? Cause you're gonna need them. Shit. Ugh, God. Yeah. Alright, so real talk though. Traveling with kids is, it's like one of those things, right? It's like this thing where everyone's like. It's the extremes, either they're like, You gotta travel with your kid, it's magical and beautiful. Which is like, fine, true, enough or whatever. And then the other end is like, Why would you take your kid on a plane or on this trip? A, they're not gonna remember it. B, it's a pain in the butt, like just stay

Lindsay: 20:40

home. Yeah, and it's so funny too, because yeah, for some people they'd be like, I'll never ever travel again until they're like. Self sufficient children or something. Totally. Or kids or teenagers or whatever and like I'm just like, yeah, let's go again.

Jordan: 20:56

I don't think it's that bad. Crazy. Yeah, I totally don't think it's that bad and this is why like you're either when you have a kid You're committing to caring for and looking after that kid Like all the time always, no matter what. So you can either go on a trip and care for them all the time always or stay at home and care for them all the time always. And I kind of just get bored at home. So I, I'm like on the trip end of the fence. We don't go out too, I mean, I say we don't go out too much. Our plan right now is to not take too many trips in the next like couple of years, but we have taken our kid on two international trips and she's like just over one. Mm hmm. So

Lindsay: 21:33

I guess. It was so reassuring and seeing her little journey to the UK and how awesome she did on the plane. Yeah, she did so well. See, I, I think I'm just like super terrified of my daughter being overtired. I'm terrified

Jordan: 21:48

of that situation. I mean, you have every right to be because you, you've, have you, no, you did, you did go with Andrew once, but most of the time you've flown with her. It's been solo, which is nuts.

Lindsay: 21:59

Yeah. I'm fairly certain I did 11 flights solo with her from the age, from between 6 months and 12 months. I'm pretty sure all of those 11 were solo. That's savage. Or at least 7 of

Jordan: 22:11

them were. Yeah, which is a lot still. Yeah. That's a lot of times going on a plane alone with your kid. Little, little, little kid.

Lindsay: 22:20

Yeah, it's uh, it's a whole thing if you're with a partner, and then it's also something a whole, a whole new thing if you're by yourself. Yeah. But like, I got that system down pretty quick. After that first plane, I was like, I do not need this much

Jordan: 22:33

shit on me. Yeah. This is all Yeah, so tell us, tell us, tell us the thing. So like Yeah, what's your system? Walk us through

Lindsay: 22:40

it. So this is my kind of take on solo travel, but this could obviously work great with another person too, because you're just, sometimes there's just too much shit. And, there's, you don't need it, you don't need it. Um, so, I do have a few things that like have worked really well for me. First and foremost, we Duna car seat stroller. And, I actually got that on Facebook Marketplace.

Jordan: 23:08

Bad girl. Yeah, I'm

Lindsay: 23:10

bad. But I like made sure it was safe and I made sure it wasn't expired. And like made sure it was registered, you know, all the things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, of course. So we got it on Facebook marketplace, but it's been the best purchase I could have ever gotten. Yeah, I'm sure. So I do recommend the Duna. for, uh, airplane travel, you do not need a base for it. We went to Alaska with it without a base, it was great. The thing about it is you have to gate check it. I prefer to gate check it. I don't prefer to Does it not go on a plane? Not under, not, well, I mean it does. I just gate check it. No,

Jordan: 23:47

yeah, yeah, but some, I think there are some car seats that are like airplane compatible. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Lindsay: 23:51

yeah. Yeah, it does but like dude, it's just so heavy Yeah, the dune is known to be heavy And so it's heavy and it's bulky as far as sitting in like a row And I've been

Jordan: 24:04

doing her on my lap. Did we even talk about what it is? What do people, people might not know what a Duna is. So the reason the Duna is awesome is because, and maybe we said something like this and you probably already intuited it, but the Duna is a car seat that doubles as like a little

Lindsay: 24:20

stroller. Yep. Yeah. But it's really nice because when you take it out of the car You just hit that button and it's a stroller. Yeah, so it's it's it's really nice. Like if you have infant. Mm hmm or child under 35 pounds To stroll through the airport.

Jordan: 24:36

Yeah, you have to stroll through the airport. You 1000 percent have

Lindsay: 24:39

to stroll. There's moms that are out there that have a ton of those carriers.

Jordan: 24:42

Yeah, but at some point, yeah. So we did both like we did like a little like hybrid system. So we have obviously when you're traveling you need a car seat. Yeah. There's the option of renting one when you rent a car. If you're going to rent a car, um, a, you might not be renting a car be like, do you really want to trust the car and old places? I'm sure they're fine. Yeah. Like I'm sure they're fine. But I would just rather my kid be in the seat that they, that they know and the seat that we know. Cause we all know that getting used to new kids stuff can be a pain. Yeah. So yeah, you need your, uh, car seat, you need a stroller and then. Yeah, a baby carrier you don't necessarily need. Like when they're a tiny infant, it's probably easy to baby carry them around the airport Yeah, yeah, but once they gain like even the littlest bit of independence and mobility they They're not going to be happy with that for two hours or whatever that it's going to take you to get through the airport So yeah, when we traveled Both times we we took a stroller. We'd have like a like a um What is it called? Your travel stroller? No, just like When you can fit it in the overhead bag.

Lindsay: 25:46

It's just a carry on.

Jordan: 25:48

Yes, thank you. And we have a carry on size stroller. So it like packs down to be the size that a carry on bag is. Um, and we have That's nice. It is actually super nice. And it packs down like with just one hand. Yeah. Which is insane. Yeah. And then we also bring a baby carrier. So we have kind of options. When we're going through TSA, we take the kid out of the stroller. And she just does better in the stroller anyway. And then Yeah, you want a stroller in the place where you're going because you're, if you're traveling, you're probably going to be out walking around doing new things. Sure. Which is stroller time. So you kind of need both of those things, which is why the doona is pretty

Lindsay: 26:23

sick. Yeah, but, so I gate check this thing. Mm-Hmm. all the way. And here's the thing though, I don't use the Duna gate check bag because you can't really utilize it with one hand. Oh. Oh, I see. When you're a solo parent, Uhhuh Amazon makes this like cheap$25 drawstring cord cover bag, and it fits a ton of like. Different car seats. Yeah, car seats. Yeah, cool. And you can literally do it with one hand. So I literally just go through the whole airport in this stroller, go to our gate, get the gate check tag. Uh huh. And then I actually board last. One of the last people. They actually, they always recommend, you know, families with littles to go on first, but my god. It's like so hot. It's no way.

Jordan: 27:10

You're going to be on that plane for long enough as it is. I am 1000 percent a last on the plane kind of gal.

Lindsay: 27:16

Um, so. We board kind of last, and then I just go down the thing.

Jordan: 27:24

I don't know what it's called. Don't look at me. Long hallway to get onto your plane. The hallway. The long It's

Lindsay: 27:34

not a hallway. I don't know. If someone could

Jordan: 27:40

Don't tell us. We don't care anymore. We're over it.

Lindsay: 27:46

I get down to the end before getting on the plane. Seriously. I hit that button on that duna, collapse it with her in it. Grab that like draw Jen cover bag. Get the whole thing up. And then I like, while she's sitting in it, I pull, I get it on halfway. Mm-Hmm. Pull her out and literally my left hand like pull the rest of it. Wow. Draw string it and it's good to go. Wow. Slick. Yeah. It's so nice. Go work. Yeah, and then when keeping things minimal, my diaper bag is a backpack. Yeah, like a little one. Yep, so it's like over my shoulders, it's not, you know, it's like. not an extra bag I'm holding onto with my other hand. Um, and the way I do it is I just do, like, snacks and toys on top. So if I don't need but could need on the bottom, something that I'm not digging for, um, diapers and wipes, like, easily accessible on the front pocket. I always have my passport and ID and a copy of her birth certificate if I need it in that front pocket too, yeah. And then I actually, one thing that I. Do like to do. I needed to do this when we went to Alaska when she was really little, was I preloaded syringes of meds. Wow. And put it in a Ziploc

Jordan: 29:01

bag. I said once that you're like type A plus And this is it you guys.

Lindsay: 29:06

I am not messing around looking for med like her little med. bag that's in like the checked bag, you know? Yeah. Or

Jordan: 29:16

emergency kit or whatever. Pre loaded syringes. How do you even make sure that they don't, like They just

Lindsay: 29:22

haven't yet. Wow. So I just pre load the actual dose. They just stay in. Yeah, I do like the Tylenol and the gripe water. Damn. I mean, I don't, she doesn't need gripe water anymore, but Tylenol is relevant. But I do that and an extra paci in a Ziploc bag and I have that like, in like it's own little pocket. And it's, boom, it's

Jordan: 29:41

ready if I ever need it. Um, that'd be great on a long haul flight. Like, I was worried about that a little bit when we were flying to the UK, because it's, I don't know, like an 11 hour flight, I think, from Salt Lake to London. Um, and we did the Nellie stop, but that's a long, that's a long time to be on a plane with a, she was seven, I want to say seven months old. Which was wild. So I did bring like Tylenol, but I didn't think to preload syringes or anything like that. Yeah. And she was, she was teething at the time, which was a little bit of a, I was scared, but she did great. She did super great. Yeah. Oh, with like her ears and stuff. With everything. I mean, just generally she did great. Yeah. I didn't need to use any medicine. She was chill the whole time. Yeah.

Lindsay: 30:22

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. So I just keep that diaper bag, backpack, like super minimal. And then, um, Yeah, like the snacks thing, that thing is full of snacks, like ready to

Jordan: 30:33

go. Snacks are like Snack cup. Yeah. The snack cup is key too because, um, I mean, I'm sure that a lot of moms out there already know this, but the cup's nice because it slows them down a little bit. Yes. And makes the snack last like, you know, that little bit longer, which keeps them that little bit happier. Yes.

Lindsay: 30:51

Yeah, and then like toys, I just, what I did, which really helped was I got, A couple like interactive books, not just like normal books, like interactive books. We borrowed one of yours. That was wonderful. Fidget toys, post it notes. I like drew on like a handful, like I, we have a package of post its and I drew like on a bunch of them and then like that kept her busy for quite some time. I did bring. Painter's Tape. The thing about Painter's Tape. It's great for the destiny, like if you're like staying in a hotel or something that's kind of blah. It's great to have because you can get a lot of imagination going. But TSA has to check it. Oh, annoying. And I'm like, man, that, that could have saved me like five minutes. And then all of a sudden, like, you're like, I don't have time to like, go dig for this painter's tape on the plane and like, set something up. Yeah. Yeah. Like, no. So that, that seemed like a great, like cool idea, but I think that's great for maybe like our destination And then she is into these like easy looking like flashcards, like just like simple images on'em. So ipu, I punched a hole in the corner of those and put'em on like a metal ring. So they went like, fall over. Oh, nice. Yeah. Great idea. Ground stuff. So yeah, that was really cool. But I just kept new toys and then every time she was sick of it, it was like onto the next, yeah, on the next, on the next shuffle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fidget toys were great.

Jordan: 32:21

Yeah. One thing that we brought, as like an emergency thing just in case was an iPad that had some downloaded episodes of Miss Rachel Yeah. For when everything else as like a last line of defense. Yeah. Yeah.

Lindsay: 32:33

I had that ready to go on my phone. Yeah. But that's. That's a good call

Jordan: 32:36

too. The phone's harder for us because my kid knows that she can like, interact with the phone, but she doesn't realize that when she's like, messing around with it, it turns the show off. Yeah. And then she gets mad and it kind of is like this cyclical thing. Yeah. But yeah, and if you hold it for her, she still kind of gets frustrated. So the iPad works a little, I mean, obviously she can still do that with the iPad, but she doesn't really, like, the iPad's not as accessible day to day, she doesn't see me interacting with it as much, so she kind of forgets that it's a thing that she can manipulate. I

Lindsay: 33:05

should try that with my daughter and see if, like, There's a difference. There's gotta be. Maybe. That's really, that's

Jordan: 33:10

really cool. I don't know, yeah, just a fun fact. But yeah, like the, the media on the planes could I guess work too, probably for like older kids but there aren't kid headphones for like toddlers and babies. No, they have to be like some kind of certain. I can't find any. They like don't exist. Yeah. So that kind of makes that tricky. We would turn on like the

Lindsay: 33:31

kid show or kid movie and she would like look at it. For a

Jordan: 33:35

second. Yeah. But like can't hear it. Yeah, so it's not as captivating. Yeah. And then hopefully they nap on the plane. That's like. Yeah. When you know you've scored. When we went to Mexico, we went to Mexico recently, and my kid was just. A little over a year old. And our flight was, I just, I didn't plan this. This is just like the magical universe. Yeah. Giving me a little break. Yeah. Um, but our flight was literally Like the time that I put her down for a nap, typically. So they say to feed your kid when you take off, right? To help to regulate their ears and everything. So we were taking off, I was breastfeeding her. bottle feeding also works great. Anything, even like a pacifier. Anything they're sucking will help to pop their ears or whatever. she I just fell asleep and I was sitting in the middle seat. My husband was to my right and my sister was to my left. So we kind of, all three of us had the row and that meant that my kid could just splay out on all of us. And it was perfect. She slept for like most of the flight and it was a dream. Yeah.

Lindsay: 34:37

I was stoked. I love that. We, that's how I planned our travel over the summer. But we had connecting flights, and so it got a little tricky, but she did eventually do it. yeah, I love that, like, feeding them at takeoff is so ideal. I gave her Like water on when we were landing because she was like kind of grabbing her ears and like kind of you can tell she was like Uncomfortable like what was going on? Yeah, so I just gave her like water and it helped a lot What else baby

Jordan: 35:05

headphones this is on the note of baby headphones I was talking about like audio headphones, but there are also those, like, baby ear muffler sound things, because some people were saying that the noise of the plane can kind of be too, like, the volume's too high for their little ears or whatever, so I got a little nervous and I borrowed some headphones. I didn't borrow those from you for the first flight, because you hadn't gone out yet. Anyway, so the first flight to the UK, we did not have them, and it went fine, and her hearing's just fine. Yeah. And then the second flight to Mexico, I borrowed them from Lindsey, thinking, uh, maybe this would be a good thing to have. They did entertain her, like, I'll give them that. They definitely entertained her. Yeah, that's like something to say. But she, by the time your kid is one, they're not going to keep those things on their head. I was like, yeah, right. Yeah,

Lindsay: 35:51

it brought those, uh, Michigan to, here's the thing. She kept, like when they would do announcements over the, you know, the pilot or the whoever was doing, then that was waking her up. I was like, man, I get those, those headphones because that'll help. But then I just covered her ears with my hands and it was fine. So that was like one thing that like, that sounds cool to have. But it's not realistic. Yeah, I appreciate having those in the stroller when we're out walking out and about in case there's like an ambulance driving by or something

Jordan: 36:23

like really loud like a fire truck or something.

Lindsay: 36:26

I appreciate having them in my stroller for those reasons, but as far as travel goes it's just like, they're bulky and they're in the way and like, I mean they're a great item

Jordan: 36:34

for her to play with too. Totally. She, like, honestly she loved playing with them enough that it was almost just worth having it as a toy. Yeah.

Lindsay: 36:41

Yeah. Yeah. Um, moving on, okay, so if you have a child that you are bottle feeding, Right. This was easier for me to utilize like my pumping cooler that I used to use. I pre filled her bottles with water. Oh, smart. And TSA allows that. They're like, yep, it's water in her bottles for formula. And I bought these, formula containers that are like a one hand pour container. So I got all her bottles like ready for the day. I don't, she doesn't need, necessarily need it warmed up, but they do recommend that formula I think is a hundred degrees Fahrenheit. So what I would do is before I would go on the plane. Before I would board, I'd be like, okay, I'm going to go to Starby's, or another coffee shop, get a hot water, then we're all going to go to the restroom, I'm going to change her unused restroom, all while I'm warming up this bottle, In this like hot cup on the sink or whatever. Yeah, and then I would add the formula after it was warm. Then we would board the plane last and it was ready to go. Yeah. I liked having that like cooler bag because then I could have it for The rest of the travel if I need to put snacks in it later or whatever So that was really helpful as a solo parent having all that like like I said pre loaded syringes. Yeah Bottles if you're breastfeeding like yourself, that's obviously Wonderful.

Jordan: 38:12

Yeah.

Lindsay: 38:14

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yep yeah, so those were like the only two bags I had was just the diaper bag and the cooler bag. Like, yeah. The only two bags you had. Eventually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jordan: 38:27

Yeah, that sounds nice. I definitely agree with you about keeping it light. I think that a common tip, travel tip, for traveling with infants, is um, Asking especially if it's a long haul flight. I don't know if they have these on the shorter flights I don't think they do have them on domestic flights, but on a long haul flights they have your time baby bassinet. Yeah,

Lindsay: 38:44

okay I have not I've never seen those until you showed me that because I've never traveled internationally to Europe Yeah, okay, so I've never seen those. Yeah, they're

Jordan: 38:55

really cool. So what's great about them is obviously you have a place to put your baby It's not like the most beautiful bed. You've ever put your child in I like by any stretch of the imagination But when they fall asleep you have somewhere to put them That's not just one of you guys holding the kid. Yeah, which is really really nice And it did actually work for at least a couple of hours. Yeah. Yeah, I will say though that the best part of Requesting the bassinet seats is that you end up in kind of a middle usually there are four seats Oh, she up right behind two bassinets. So you end up in one of those aisles, the middle aisle with four seats, but the distance between the seat and the wall where the bassinet is, is like double or triple the distance that you would get in any other seat on the plane. That's so you actually have tons of space in front of you. There was enough space in front of us and no one else was on the row Thankfully, we had tons of space to ourselves, which was so, so good. But the nicest part was we could lay down one of the little blankets. They give you little blankets when you go on these long haul flights. And we just laid one of those little blankets down, and there was totally space for her to play. Like, get on her belly, do tummy time. Yeah. Roll around. Yeah. Like, kind of practice standing on the edge of the seat. Oh, that's nice. Okay, noted. It was a game changer. So, asking for the bassinet, even if you don't, if you don't think you want to use the bassinet, fine, cool, don't use it, but just know that you're getting a lot of extra space to set your kid down. If they do have

Lindsay: 40:15

that available. You could toss all your toys in that bassinet. Absolutely. Or something. You

Jordan: 40:18

for sure could. Yeah.

Lindsay: 40:20

Yeah. Oh, I love that tip. Yeah.

Jordan: 40:22

My kid spit up quite a bit. For a while. Oh, sure. And I was definitely still in the spit up phase when we went to the UK. So I packed her, you know, a couple extra outfits, because sometimes we just blow through like two or three outfits. Oh, yeah. So I was like, prepping. We've got plenty of outfits. What I did not pack was an extra shirt for me. Oh.

Lindsay: 40:39

Hahaha.

Jordan: 40:42

So, um, just think about that if your kid spits up a lot and you're on a plane where you're holding them in a very specific way and there's not a lot of space for them to just be laying down, spitting up to the side.

Lindsay: 40:52

Roll that shirt up and put it at the bottom of the diaper rack.

Jordan: 40:55

Yeah, you want a shirt for yourself. For sure.

Lindsay: 40:57

Noted. Yeah. Yeah, so those, those are the kind of like simple things that I pack or take along with me, solo parenting, obviously those, I'll probably keep it that simple when I travel with my spouse or another person as well. Less is more.

Jordan: 41:12

I was going to say one thing that I wanted to mention when you were talking about gate checking the DUNA is we gate checked our kids. Car seat for our first international flight to the UK. And then when we went to Mexico, we, we also checked the car seat, but we checked it, just at the normal spot where you check bags. Because, once you wrap it in its, Like a case you can shove all sorts of stuff in there. So we wrapped it up and then just shoved like a couple of Adrienne's things and just like really utilized that space as extra packing so that we could be lighter through the airport, which was awesome. Oh, another thing, so, um, Lindsay was saying about, the bottles being able to have water in them when they go through TSA. So when we went to the UK, we, I accidentally just had my full Nalgene. I, like, come on. I've traveled so many times. I don't know how I messed it up. Nalgene full of water in the bottom of her stroller. So we go through TSA, I put the stroller through, and the agent gives me this like, look, head's tilted down, his eyes are like, pointed up at me, eyebrows raised, like, so is this for her? Food. Like, is this for formula? And I was like, no, I just totally spaced. I'm so sorry. And he looked at me again and he was like, is this for formula? And I was like, it's really not. And I'm an idiot. He was just being nice. You guys, he was like, he was like, okay, I'm just going to walk you through this. If this is for formula. Then I just have to test it real quick and I can give it back to you. And if it's not for formula, I have to dispose of the whole thing. So, and then he looked at me one more time, and was like, Is this for a formula? And I was like, Oh, uh, yeah. That's, mm hmm, totally. That is for my kid's food. She needs that. She needs

Lindsay: 43:00

that. Yes, you can totally go through Yeah, it doesn't have

Jordan: 43:04

to bottle. Yeah, any, any bottle of water goes through if it's for your kid. So, if you don't even

Lindsay: 43:09

have formula on you. Yeah. No.

Jordan: 43:12

Nope. Not at all. And

Lindsay: 43:13

you're like, yeah, I need that water because I need water for her for to have breast

Jordan: 43:17

milk. They don't ask you any questions besides that. Yeah. When you've got a kid there, they're like, you're

Lindsay: 43:21

good to go. Yeah.

Jordan: 43:22

So yeah. I was like, oh, noted. Mm-Hmm. Thank you, sir. Yeah. Okay, so then I have a couple other things to mention for when you're actually at your destination, enjoying yourselves on your trip. So one of the things that I loved, we went on a little trip to California just to see the coast in the summer in our van. And I was really worried about nap times because I didn't want her napping in the heat in the van. Yeah. Where am I going to take her? We're in the van. Yeah. We stayed in the airbnb for a minute, but we're like, okay, I can't do this. So the, one of the great things was having a baby carrier actually worked really well for nap time. So we would just be at the beach and when it was like about nap time, I'd put her in the carrier and put the little hood up over her head and she slept actually really well. And me and Adrian would just go on a little walk down the beach. Yep. And come back and she may not have taken as great of a nap as she would have, but it was still something that I, yeah, and you don't have to be fretting about like what you're going to do. So if you're out and about anywhere, I think that that would be a really good, a really good little travel tip. And then for naps, otherwise, a few of the Airbnbs we've stayed at, we had, like, a little travel crib available to us. But I really like the one that we have, it's a Lotus, a Guava Lotus travel crib. It's great because it also packs down to be a carry on size, which means it's really light. Yes. Packable. Um, it also has like little backpack straps, but, uh, what I would do is put my kid down in it for her naps, like two weeks leading up to the trip so that she actually gets used to being in there because we don't use it at home. Yeah. But for naps, I would just put her down every other day, put her down in a nap in that, just so that she got used to it. I've heard of these like slumber, slumber pod. Yeah, those look cool. Have you seen those? They look sick. They do look cool. I bet they work really well, too. We

Lindsay: 45:05

haven't tried one. We have like a dark cover that we just throw over the top. Yeah. I borrowed your Lotus for our first trip to Alaska. Oh, yeah, that's right I forgot about the reason I got this black covers because we were in Alaska in June right after summer solstice And so it was light out right and oh man I'm not sure and this was when she was really little and so we got that black cover thing and it worked Wonderful for her.

Jordan: 45:31

Yeah, that's great. so that's something that can be really nice to bring along. It's not like super necessary to bring it. We did bring it to Mexico. Like I said, we didn't bring it to the UK and A couple places where we slept we didn't have a little travel crib and we just opted to like let her sleep with us in bed just really carefully. Which isn't ideal but it is also better than hauling around a travel crib. Yeah, you gotta really pare it down when you're traveling with a kid because there's so much extra stuff. Man, when me and Adrienne used to travel it would be like one teeny little bag. and now it's like, seven bags, let's, I mean, not actually seven, but pretty close when you get the stroller, and you get the chopper crib, and you get the car seat. That's already three, and that's not even including any luggage. Which is a little wild. Um, and let's see, that's pretty much it for me, I think.

Lindsay: 46:20

Cool. Keep it simple. Keep it chill. Yeah. I mean try to keep yourself chill. Mm hmm. It's, it's phenomenal how like entertained they actually are with. Being in a new space. Totally. Oh. Taking them on that walking thing. Oh my

Jordan: 46:34

god. My kid loves being in a new space. My daughter loves

Lindsay: 46:38

that pamphlet thing in the seat like more than her toys.

Jordan: 46:42

Yeah. It's so funny. Yeah, you can always find something. You know what my experience with traveling has always been is that, um, I was nervous that people would be really frustrated with there being a baby. Hmm. And despite the fact that, you know, my kid did pretty well, I also found literally everyone around me, the flight attendants, the passengers, were so gracious and, like, really went out of their way to make sure that I knew that they were comfortable and not that they were going to be okay and supportive if anything, if shit hit the fan up there. I

Lindsay: 47:12

loved, when I would walk, okay, so I'm bored. Mentioned I board last, like we get on the plane and I loved hearing like all the comments, like as you're going down the aisle, people are like, So you're like, oh, this is so good, like I feel

Jordan: 47:24

welcomed. And I think that's what those people are saying comments for, for the most part, is just to make sure that you know, as like a nervous traveling mom, Yeah, yeah. That, yeah, you and your baby are welcome.

Lindsay: 47:35

I will say the suckiest thing to do. When you're on the plane with your child has changed

Jordan: 47:41

their diaper. It is not nice. No. Ooh, that reminds me. I, do you have like a little like pad to lay her down on? I do,

Lindsay: 47:50

but the, the, on the plane ride to Michigan I had to because I didn't have time. Yeah. And poopy diaper, yep, you gotta change that when you're on a plane. Yeah, for sure you do. And the thing wouldn't come undone. Like it's, of the, it's like a tray that comes off. from the ceiling.

Jordan: 48:08

Okay, so you're talking about the changing table. Yeah, the changing table on the airplane's bathroom. Yeah, it would

Lindsay: 48:13

not come down. So I had to lay her down on the toilet. No, you didn't. With the lid down. No, you didn't. Yes, because there was no room. She's like big. Yeah. So like, I mean, she was like halfway

Jordan: 48:24

on, halfway off. That's, poopy diaper. Yes. She screwed her

Lindsay: 48:29

head off. But then, on the way back from Michigan, I had to do it again. But she didn't poop. It was just illegal. She just wasn't settled, so I was like, I gotta change this diaper and it'll help. There was no changing table in their bathroom on the plane. I feel like that's, like, illegal. I went back to the, I was, like, towards the back of the plane, okay? And I, okay, so before the bathroom, there's like this open space of just like where the flight attendants kind of sit if they have to, or like storage. And there was nobody there. There was, it was like from me to you and like as long as this table, nobody. I changed her on the ground. Oh

Jordan: 49:12

my god. I mean, you have to. If there's no changing table, what other option

Lindsay: 49:16

do you have? I had to. That's insane. On the ground of the

Jordan: 49:19

plane. Oh, I bet she was like, what the heck, mom? What the heck? This floor sucks. It's cold. It's loud. It's vibrating. I had her on a changing

Lindsay: 49:28

pad, but at the same time, yeah, oh, I felt terrible. I felt so bad. And it was just like, I, I have to do whatever I can the next time we travel, like, to make sure, like, this is under control.

Jordan: 49:40

You don't have to ever do that again. Yeah, no, that sucks. But yeah, the changing pad, that's something that I don't, I didn't have before we started traveling because I actually changed my kit in the back of my car. I have, like, a, an SUV. And I have like a little thing, like a little changing station because I prefer, it's easier to change her in my car than in, in bath, in public bathrooms. Yes. And also we go on a lot of hikes and I like to change her before and after, before and or after the hike. Anyway, but yeah, when we went traveling you, you kind of have to change them in public places. So having like a little change pad that folds up is definitely a recommendation for the airport and the plane. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah, sweet. Well, that's, uh. Let's do it

Lindsay: 50:19

all again.

Jordan: 50:20

Let's do it all. Where do you want to go? Let's take our kids somewhere fun. Oh, lord. Oh, you know what? One more cool thing was, just real quick, is at the London airport, and I think at most major airports, there is a secret hidden playground. No way. Not shitting you. For like little kids, for parents traveling with little kids, there's like a kid zone in airports. That's cool. That they hide away so that no one else can be bothered by the little screaming sheds. Yeah. Who are trying to get their wiggles out before a flight. Yes. And it is awesome. It's so awesome. Like, I mean, it's not going to be the cleanest place in the world for your kid to be running around. But if you've committed to traveling on an airplane with them, then you've kind of. Yeah, get those wiggles out. Like, let caution go to the wind a little bit. Cool. It's really cool. I don't know if the Salt Lake Airport even has one. I've like, forgot about it. And didn't check. Yeah. Yeah. But man, the London airport Heathrow was like, that's

Lindsay: 51:14

impressive. It was

Jordan: 51:15

cool's really cool that like it's quiet there. Heathrow's so busy and so stinking loud all the time. It was so overstimulating. And then we're about to get on an 11 hour flight. Mm-Hmm But when you went into the little kid zone, it was like dead silent. There were like two other families in there. I love that. It was nice for me. Okay. Because usually you think a kid area is gonna be like chaos and loud and annoying, but this was like. Comparatively. Yeah.

Lindsay: 51:38

It was the opposite. They were thinking about families. Totally. For sure.

Jordan: 51:41

Yeah. That's really cool. Yeah, so check out to see whether your airport has one of those because it's a game changer too. Yeah. Yeah. Sweet.

Lindsay: 51:47

Alright, do you want to move, forward? We're talking, we've been talking about, like, these cool, little trending

Jordan: 51:53

we have. Yeah, let's, let's, yeah, throw it at us. Yeah,

Lindsay: 51:56

we are. Okay. So there's this thing out there. A lot of people are seeing it because it is like all over and it's called like the ins and outs of 2024. So it's like your own personal, New Year's resolutions, if you will. Okay. But instead of saying, here's my resolution, sometimes they're pretty hard to achieve. People are kind of coming up with this new concept and they're saying. Ins and outs. So these are my ins this year. This is my outs

Jordan: 52:23

for this year. Yeah, I look like a like you would in fashion or something. Yeah, yeah,

Lindsay: 52:27

absolutely. Um, but like I kind of want to take it like a little bit more so that I can hold myself accountable and not do it seasonally.

Jordan: 52:35

Oh, I like that. So you're not, so you're giving yourself more opportunities for flexibility throughout the year. Yeah, I love that

Lindsay: 52:41

idea. Yeah, and then maybe keeping some of them or swapping some out. Yeah, that way you can see what works for you. Yep, yep. So I'm going to ask you what your ins and outs could be.

Jordan: 52:52

You're putting me on the spot.

Lindsay: 52:55

But I, but I have some too, so I can start if you want.

Jordan: 52:58

Okay, you give me like at least one or two and then I'll, I'll rally. So

Lindsay: 53:01

my ins are, and this is as random as it can be, kind of like whatever you're like, I'm going to do some of that or no, I'm going to kick this out of my routine. So my ins are thrifting. Oh, love it. That's a really big, like cool thing right now. Like I, I'm loving thrifting. I'm loving being on thrifting algorithm. It's really fun. Um, that's one cool thing. There's some gems out there. I bet. Especially if like there's ever any estate sales. Ooh, there's some gems. I want some, like I'm dying to find like the perfect Levi denim gene, like worn in. Yes. I gotta get them thrifted. Like it's just gotta go that route. So I'm kind of keeping my eye out for that. But anyways, that's an in for me. Mm-Hmm. Um. Continuing a gua sha routine. Oh, what's this? You know what gua sha is? No. You've seen those like, they're like the jade stones that like, My sister was telling me about this. Massage your face and do like lymphatic drainage. So I have two stones at home. I do them randomly, but I want to do it consistently. So that's like an in for me this year is like continuing gua sha. It like helps like, you know, keep your jawline. I don't know. Teach me how. Yeah. Yeah. I would love to, I would love to do that. Yeah. So I like, I, I've only really done it in the mornings and I think that's the correct type to do it. Hmm. But Gua is like really cool and it's so satisfying to like watch these. Chicks and maybe men are doing it too, but it's so satisfying to watch these people go through their gua sha routine I'm obsessed with like watching them like Do it cuz then I'm like, oh, that's so like satisfying and like looks relaxing and like yeah, beautiful. That's awesome I

Jordan: 54:44

want to continue that. Yeah, send me something. Yeah next time you come across one send it to me And then also how do you how are you spelling that? Do you know? G

Lindsay: 54:52

U A space S H A. Okay,

Jordan: 54:56

so it's what it sounds like but two words. Okay, cool.

Lindsay: 54:59

Yeah, cool. Um, prioritizing rest. Holla!

Jordan: 55:05

Yeah,

Lindsay: 55:06

that needs to be on the mind. Let's bring that to like a, let's put the word prioritize in front of it. Not just rest, but like prioritize it. Yeah. Um, and then another one is outside time. I thrive with fresh air. Yes. Thrive, thrive, thrive. So, that's an in for me this year. Trusting myself is an in for me this year.

Jordan: 55:28

This season. Yeah,

Lindsay: 55:30

this season. We'll see if it continues.

Jordan: 55:34

It sure will. That one needs to continue.

Lindsay: 55:36

Yeah, yeah, so trusting myself. Um, another, one more in for me is talking about feelings. I have opened up a lot more becoming a mom. My feelings and what I'm going through and my feelings are important too and Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda. So that's a big like in for me.

Jordan: 55:55

I'm like taking a big sigh right now because you write Yeah, I've always been good about like boundaries and feelings like that But I'm not always good about like talking about the the harder feelings to talk about and I do think that that's super important So I'm gonna steal that one as an in. Another in for me that I literally have been writing down in my little bullet journal is Outside time too. I'm trying to get for myself and for my kid. You brought it up the other day. Yeah. So a minimum of an hour, but ideally two hours every day outside. Right now I'm only doing an hour because it's very much winter vibes here. Um, we're getting lots of storms right now. It's just really hard to be outside with a one year old who is very mobile but doesn't understand walking on ice and snow. Yeah. And you can't do a two hour long walk in a stroller. And then hikes are like, really cold. So we're gonna try and go down to the desert and get some, some warm outdoor time in. But yeah, we're still doing an hour outside, which is really, really nice. That's definitely an in for me. Oh, you know what else isn't in for me? Is Focusing nurturing and Just generally having an abundance mindset. Yeah. Abundance mindset is in for me right now. That's good. Yeah. That one's hard. I am like fully, I'm not always a scarcity mindset person, but like deep down when it comes to it. I can be. My retreat is a scarcity mindset. So yeah, an in for me this year would be trying to nurture that abundance mindset. Oh, I love hearing that. So yeah, that's a good one.

Lindsay: 57:25

Do you have any more ins? More tea? I don't know. More tea.

Jordan: 57:30

Less caramels? I don't

Lindsay: 57:32

know.

Jordan: 57:35

At least they're fantastic. No, they're great. No, no, no, I know. They're so good. I honestly, I need to be eating less vanilla tootsie rolls. If anything needs to be an out, it's probably Those.

Lindsay: 57:45

It's probably those. Shit. One of my outs is fast fashion.

Jordan: 57:52

I love this one. I love it. Over it. Super with you. Yeah. 1000 percent with you on that one. I haven't bought a new piece of clothes in so long. I'm doing great. Yeah. And like fast

Lindsay: 58:03

fashion trends. Like the, yeah, they're cool and everything, but like I need something timeless. I'm at that age where I'm like, timeless is key and like the thrifting thing kind of goes along with that too. So fast fashion's out for me for sure, um, this year. And then washing my face a. m. and p. m. Really? Like not both. Pick one. Can

Jordan: 58:24

I add something to you? Oh, you mean just do one? Yeah. Instead of both. You wash your face both right now. I was.

Lindsay: 58:30

I was. Okay. Okay. And then. Just recently like around Christmas time. I was like, I'm only here in 2 p. m. Screw

Jordan: 58:40

it. Interesting. And better?

Lindsay: 58:42

Doing better. It's kind of in that transition phase where it's like getting used to it, but I only wash it at night now.

Jordan: 58:51

Can I tell you a secret? Yeah. I don't wash my face.

Lindsay: 58:56

When you, what do you do when you put makeup on? I don't.

Jordan: 59:00

You don't put, I literally have never worn foundation. Oh my god, you lucky SOB. Okay, well that makes me feel a little bit better that I'm like doing something okay. Like, I guess like, it makes sense. So I wasn't thinking in my head like you'd be washing makeup off. Yeah, like, it's too

Lindsay: 59:14

much. Like, all this, like all these steps. Dude, it's so much. I mean it's so overwhelming and like all these steps and it's like really get down to the basics and that's all you need to do is just like a nice cleanser and good moisturizer. Maybe a good serum here and there. SPF, call

Jordan: 59:29

it. That's a lot of things you just said. Yeah. My brain just went like, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. I feel like you were like throwing balls at my head. I just think that like, that's narrowing it

Lindsay: 59:38

down for me.

Jordan: 59:39

I, I got really into the idea of skincare a while back when I had like, you know, a little bit of extra money to spend. Skincare stuff is expensive. So yeah, I used to wash my face a fair bit. But I kind of just stopped and it really doesn't feel like it needs To be washed. Every once in a while it does, and I have face washed, and I will wash it, and it feels great. I do use moisturizer on my face. It's like the one thing I do use. Um, yeah, I just rinsed my face with water. That's it. I love that. Which for you? Well, I don't know if it is good for me. I don't know. I think it is. Like it's probably good to not wear a bunch of makeup. Yeah. But if I'm wearing makeup,

Lindsay: 1:00:19

that shit's gotta come off your face. I like, yeah. So upset with myself.

Jordan: 1:00:23

I wear mascara. That's the only makeup I wear and I definitely always take my mascara off at the end of the day. Alright, well, yeah.

Lindsay: 1:00:29

Those are fun trending things. It's like a new trending

Jordan: 1:00:31

thing. I like that. I'm gonna make a little ins and outs list. Yeah.

Lindsay: 1:00:34

And then I'll come back in the spring.

Jordan: 1:00:37

Yeah, we can check in, we can do little ins and outs, check in in the spring. Yeah, there we go. I love that idea. Yeah, we'll do that in the first day of spring. Stay tuned. Yes Cool. Well, we do we have I guess we can wrap this up. We've gone on for ages, but Have you got a recommendation you want to throw at us?

Lindsay: 1:00:54

I Could not get through all my travel anxiety anxieties without therapy I'm recommending you are an anxious person and like a parent traveling If you could just get on a couple sessions and talk about it with a therapist, it's phenomenal. Like, don't get me wrong, family and friends are there to, like, reach out to and be, people that are, like,, consoling and, comforting and, like, yeah, we did it too, but, like, having the tools from a therapist is incredible. Yeah, my therapist helped me a lot, I love that, yeah, like I said, I have all the, I have the system down, I have kind of it figured out in my head, but every time I travel, I'm nervous wreck, yeah, I don't know, it's just anxiety happens yeah, so having those tools in my pocket, utilizing them. is helpful from my therapist.

Jordan: 1:01:49

Good. I love that. I should have let you go last cause that was like a really nice little heartfelt one of mine. It was just basic as.

Lindsay: 1:01:55

Um,

Jordan: 1:01:59

I also recommend therapy just, uh, for anyone who, yeah, I also recommend therapy, but, my recommendation this week is, the, so it's the travel stroller that we have. It's the brand is called Zoe and the specific one we have is called the traveler. Yeah. It is super, it's so great. Me and Lindsay both have kind of bougie strollers. It was like one of my husband's, like. Gear guy. So it was like one of the things I knew we were going to need to invest in a good quality one for. The Zoe Travelute is still pricey, but it is a fraction of the price of the other stroller that I have. And I will say that if I had to go back in time and just choose one stroller, I would pick the Zoe over the one, the other one that we have. I for sure would. Because it's more versatile. I've seen you use that one

Lindsay: 1:02:46

with one hand, right? It's so nice

Jordan: 1:02:47

to, yeah, you just pull it out of your car with one hand, you deploy it, and it's awesome and it has like, it has less space in the bottom for storage but the little space behind your kid's head is like this fabric that is like continuous with the hood of the stroller and you can put so much stuff in that little pocket and then there's like a cup holder that comes with it It's honestly, it's sick. It's really good and it feels nice quality. It's made out of like non toxic materials. All good things. Yeah. It hits all your check marks. Yeah. So, I fully recommend that one. Cool. Yeah. Anyway, that's it. So, yeah. Let's go travel. Let's go somewhere.

Lindsay: 1:03:25

Let's work on our ins and

Jordan: 1:03:26

outs. Yeah, let's work on those. I like that. In, out for me is traveling. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Out for me for this year for sure is like going in a plane. We are going to be home for a hot minute. Chilling. Well, not home. I say home. We're going to go on more van trips. Yeah. Just local little Utah trips.

Lindsay: 1:03:45

I think we have Back to the Midwest. Usually we go back for 4th of July. And we're going back to Sitka, Alaska in August. Maybe I will go, I don't know yet.

Jordan: 1:03:57

TBD. TBD for me. TTC. TBD. Yeah.

Lindsay: 1:04:03

If

Jordan: 1:04:05

you know, you know.

Lindsay: 1:04:08

What others are there? I want to keep this going. Oh god. I

Jordan: 1:04:13

mean, I used to get one of my best friends in uni shit and say L Y L A S. Do you know that one? She hated it. L Y L A S. Love you lots. I'll be like a sister.

Lindsay: 1:04:27

She's like shut. Up. I love it. Yeah, lol. Oh man. Lol.

Jordan: 1:04:36

You come back with

Lindsay: 1:04:39

lol. Is that an out?

Jordan: 1:04:42

You guys, we're tired. It's late now. I think that might be an out. I still say lol, but that is totally a millennial thing. Did you know that? To close texts with LOL is totally a millennial thing. I love

Lindsay: 1:04:56

it when you say

Jordan: 1:04:56

LMAO. Yeah, it just feels like a little fresher, I don't know.

Lindsay: 1:05:02

I love it. We should probably stop. Alright, yeah, my tea's gone,

Jordan: 1:05:09

so it's time. Okay, everybody. T C Y L. B R

Lindsay: 1:05:16

B. You're on it. I can't even, like, think off the top of my head. Oh my god. Oh, wow.

Jordan: 1:05:23

Love that. Okay, sweet. Well, this has been really fun. Uh, thanks for listening to We Have Kids. Yep. We Have

Lindsay: 1:05:30

Kids, and we'll have more fun. More to talk about, because we have kids.

Jordan: 1:05:35

Yeah, so keep on listening. We will speak at you next time. Bye. Bye.